Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

CeciliaCrimsondragonFett wrote:

I dunno, that rumours been around for years. When theres an official announcement about it, then I'll believe it.

Star Wars producer Rick McCallum has unofficially "confirmed" the projects at conventions for the last year or so.

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

I think star wars is dieing because they are degrading it to apeal more to younger children AND IT TICKS ME OFF!

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

ZETA 27 wrote:

I think star wars is dieing because they are degrading it to apeal more to younger children AND IT TICKS ME OFF!

I'm not so sure there.

I mean, Star Wars was one of the first films to produce the vast variety of merchandise targeted at children that we all benefit from today. It is common for films to make action figures based on the characters now  but before Star Wars that was not really done on any scale. And there is the sea of other merchandise, everything from children's underwear to educational materials (The Star Wars question and answer book about space, 1979).  I think Star wars was able to achieve the overall success that it did largely because of the younger audience.

Also, I think a strong argument could be made that projects aimed at kids, Droids and Ewoks cartoons for example (regardless of how good or bad they were), kept Star Wars on the media radar during the late 80s and early 90s.

I think I understand what you are saying but people my parents' age were "adults" when the films were in the theaters and you do not see nearly as many 55 year old SW fans as you do 40 year old fans. People my age and a little older, I was seven when SW came out in the theaters, are the first group of consumers to contribute directly to the financial success of the films and related merchandise.

I think what is really different is that kids have changed, society has changed. I know a lot of people don't like a lot of the new material being produced but a lot of people hated the prequels too. I can't even watch the prequels and the original films on the same day without getting a stomach ache. But on the other hand, for a lot of people "their" Star Wars IS the prequels.  For me It's Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi---- NOT episode V,IV and VI.

So anyway, maybe it's just a generational thing like with Star Trek.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

star wars is kinda made for kids up to 15 or something

it's not that adulty. But then again, I like Horrid Henry, and that's aimed at 8 year olds......

the action figures are for kids, full stop in my opinion.

Adults are acting too much like children about " Cool " or " rare " action figures

* sigh *

hmm

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Star Wars is very much for adults as it is kids! Why do you think you only hear kids talk about all the lightsaber fighting, and adults about the philosophical components and such! People have written books on this stuff!

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

StarWars isn't a kids movie, its, well, just a movie if that makes sense. A lot of things rush over kids heads. Kids like cute and funny things, and the action scenes, but much is lost on them. Like the moral struggle Luke goes through, and how he changes from a whiny teenager to a serious adult.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Star Wars is not a kids thing. It is for everyone. If anything Episodes 3, 5 and 6 are more for adults(except the ewoks in 6, the rest was adulty)


Most Star Wars stuff is aimed for adults yet also works for kids.

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58 (edited by Masterchief Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 am)

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

okas, true.

And the books are written so adults can understand them

I was just curious if it was....

but the figures are a little childish for adults.

Some figures are for adults, like Star Trek and Halo

But Star Wars?

LOL tongue

wink

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

What makes Star Wars figures different from Halo figures?  I fail to see the path of your logic.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Masterchief wrote:

okas, true.

And the books are written so adults can understand them

uh, the books are written for the fans, and for the authors to make money and create new characters, etc.

but the figures are a little childish for adults.

adults collect figures. not play with them.

Some figures are for adults, like Star Trek and Halo

those figures are meant to be more like collectables. you can still play with them, just as you can with star wars figures.

61 (edited by tachyonblade Friday, March 27, 2009 4:08 am)

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

I think my post above may have turned this thread in a not so productive direction. Of course, there are aspects of SW that appeal more to adults and a those that appeal more to the younger folks. What I was trying to point out was something a little more simple. Star Wars is built on its merchandising empire as much as it is on anything else.
Let's be frank,The story in not that complicated. The characters are archetypes that can be found in any number of the world's mythologies. (See Joseph Campbell's work for more on this, especially the interview he did with Bill Moyers at Skywalker Ranch back in the 80s). What made the first film a success, in my opinion, was 1.) the fantastic visuals, this includes design work (costumes, sets,vehicles etc., special effects and art direction etc. and 2.) all the crap that people my age moaned and whined to our parents to buy for us when we were kids. As I pointed out above, before SW that kind of merchandising was unknown. "Adults" today were kids then so there is also a continuum to the purchasing pattern. That's one of the reasons why modern figures are so well done compared to the originals, Adults can collect them and kids can play with them or in my case you can do both. 

So, I'm not saying it's a kid's thing or a grown up thing so much as I am saying it's a discursive phenomenon that has transcended its original concept. By which I mean, it has a life of its own now but in the beginning, as has been pointed out countless times by myself and others, Lucas did not have all this worked out. Things just evolved. And I think, to bring it back on topic, as long as things keep evolving we will have Star Wars!

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

whatever.

I'm just saying adults playing with figures is stupid

but collecting them is fine.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

No its not. o.O I very much prefer the adults who still play with the figures to the ones who keep them in a box neatly lined up in a giant room. Toys are made to be played with, and there is nothing wrong with playing with action figures, even if you are an adult. Or a girl. Or both. Its like saying cartoons are for kids only. Or that video games are just a kids thing.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

CeciliaCrimsondragonFett wrote:

No its not. o.O I very much prefer the adults who still play with the figures to the ones who keep them in a box neatly lined up in a giant room. Toys are made to be played with, and there is nothing wrong with playing with action figures, even if you are an adult. Or a girl. Or both. Its like saying cartoons are for kids only. Or that video games are just a kids thing.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Sounds like you ran into some Dead Heads LOL.... yeah I've known a few too... I guess they are just not fans or simply out of touch with reality.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Boba_the_Fett wrote:

Sounds like you ran into some Dead Heads LOL.... yeah I've known a few too... I guess they are just not fans or simply out of touch with reality.

Not really sure as to what this post refers? Dead Heads? Ya kind of lost me.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

LOL just a joke... that fell flat.

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68 (edited by tachyonblade Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:48 am)

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

How many of you know what the word "insidious" means?

Without looking it up in a dictionary.....!

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

I've definitly heard the word before, but to be honest, no, I cannot recall its definition. What kind of a test are you puttin on us?

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

uhh.. the opposite of sidious? lol i forget its exact definition, though i have heard and used the word before.

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

There's a reason that is relevant to the topic that I am asking this question  "How many of you know what the word "insidious" means?" so please don't feel bad if you don't know or think that I am trying to be a "smart guy"

After a few more people chime in I will go into more detail.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

It's when you shrink yourself and go inside Palpatine. big_smile:D:D

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

The only poeple I have witnessed say that Star Wars is dead are those who are old and used to be Star Wars fans back during the original Trilogy. I guess most poeple used to hold a perception of Star Wars that was twisted during the new trilogy movies, the comics, the novels, and the cartoons. Star Wars definatly isnt dead, but I guess it is to THEM.

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Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

It will never die. It may go to the way of Books and Eu but I dont seeing it die out. There are to many fans out there to let it die.

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75 (edited by Miba Monday, February 22, 2010 2:26 pm)

Re: Why do people think Star Wars is dead?

Well, you have to consider in which way we mean die. It could die off as in the truth and canon, the beauty and magic of the REAL SW story will die because the only fans around will be kids who never saw the movies or read the books, but could quote every line from every episode of Clone Wars.

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