1 (edited by cujo Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:52 am)

Topic: character(EU) exiles...

i often wonder why so many EU characters get created and then go neglected, who r ur favorites and would like to see more of...

mine are
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jodo_Kast
jodo kast-i realize he is a poser, but i like the angle of fett having a doppleganger if not an ersatz one. needs another comic appearence.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Baron_Fel
baron fel- the empires "red baron" but never used. this guy deserves a rogue squadron type game.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Iridorian
i just like this guys looks...he needs to be in kotor 3.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cydon_Prax
cydon prax-this guy just intrugued me...he needs to be in the clone wars cartoon. alot of potential.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spiker
spiker-another guy that looks cool and has low miles...this guy needs to be video game boss or get his own comic.
all that i can think of right now...
who r urs?

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2 (edited by Thylacine Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:42 am)

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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A'Sharad_Hett
Actually, just more Tusken Raiders in general, but especially A'sharad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK-47
I can't get enough of that guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yuuzhan_Vong
I don't know why, but they intrigue me.

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I don't know a lot of those but I did like Jodo Kast. You could create scenarios with him that could never actually occur with Boba Fett, simply because they are different characters. Kast is young and cocky, so you can get him into situations that Boba would simply avoid out of experience and intelligence.

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I agree with Jodo Kast. I also think Durge, D'harhan, Gorm, Aurra Sing, and Kenix Kil need more spotlight.

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I can't get enough of HK either.

But I really like this guy: http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images … olhead.jpg


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draco fett wrote:

I agree with Jodo Kast. I also think Durge, D'harhan, Gorm, Aurra Sing, and Kenix Kil need more spotlight.

Dude not durge seriously dont go there worst charecter ever, and i dont know what you see in D'harhan either.

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revan...is that fett? it looks like a duck...quacks like a duck...
(a serious question)

as for durge im on the fence about him...why do you not like him IG unit?
who is dharhan...to the wookiepedia!

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IG-88 wrote:

Dude not durge seriously dont go there worst charecter ever, and i dont know what you see in D'harhan either.

What makes them so aweful?

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9 (edited by IG-88 Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:38 am)

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Well the thing about D'harhan is last time i talked to you about him it seemed that the only reason you like him is because of the huge gun instead of a head. Durge is just another one of those almost indestructible charecters that anger me, also he is from the clone wars cartoon which i have already said i didnt like. There are various over reasons that i cant be bothered to state.

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The Clone Wars cartoon was not canon, so Durge's apperance in it was not necessarily canon.

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11 (edited by Alo Fett Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:22 pm)

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draco fett wrote:

The Clone Wars cartoon was not canon, so Durge's apperance in it was not necessarily canon.

ummm... He's NOT just in the clone wars cartoon he is also in Dark Hourse comics http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durge I don't not like him wink but I do think that he is a cheap knock off of Vader/Boba I mean come on he even used boba mando insig on his chest.
And I like D'harhan. I'm working on a drawling of him now cu'z there isn't any yet.
and I also like Bosk but he's not too neglected.
I think I have to go with Alpha-77, known as ARC-77 and more commonly known as Fordo.
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Alo Fett wrote:
draco fett wrote:

The Clone Wars cartoon was not canon, so Durge's apperance in it was not necessarily canon.

ummm... He's NOT just in the clone wars cartoon he is also in Dark Hourse comics http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durge I don't not like him wink but I do think that he is a cheap knock off of Vader/Boba I mean come on he even used boba mando insig on his chest.

1. I did not say that he was only in the non-canon Clone Wars cartoon, I said that his apperance in it was not canon. In addition to the comics, he is also in at least one book.
2. Wookieepedia is not trustworthy.
3. Durge has almost nothing in common with Boba, or Vader.
4. The Mandalorian symbol does not belong to Baba.
5. The reason for the symbol was explained.

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draco fett wrote:
Alo Fett wrote:
draco fett wrote:

The Clone Wars cartoon was not canon, so Durge's apperance in it was not necessarily canon.

ummm... He's NOT just in the clone wars cartoon he is also in Dark Hourse comics http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durge I don't not like him wink but I do think that he is a cheap knock off of Vader/Boba I mean come on he even used boba mando insig on his chest.

1. I did not say that he was only in the non-canon Clone Wars cartoon, I said that his apperance in it was not canon. In addition to the comics, he is also in at least one book.
2. Wookieepedia is not trustworthy.
3. Durge has almost nothing in common with Boba, or Vader.
4. The Mandalorian symbol does not belong to Baba.
5. The reason for the symbol was explained.

1.sorry I didn't see that.
2. "Wookieepedia is not trustworthy." it's untrustworthy because it can be edited by anyone right? Well guess what so is all the internet just not as much, so if someone is going to make a fake site they will work much harder to do it. And did you see anything on that page that was none canon? No? then don't say it isn't.
I can see your point. But with something like Durge people will fix any messups.I could see if it was something like this http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_King or this, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Raich. but htis is Durge who we all know. so if you see some none canon stuff there please tell me and I'll go fix it.
3.Yes he dose! the symbol and a JET PACK and his helm/bodie is like vaders but not much I admit.
4.I know that Baba dosn't own it and BOBA dosn't own it ether but it started with Boba. and that should have said: "boba's mando insig" (which is still confusing)
5.And I don't care if it was "explained" it's still a rip off.

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well there should at least be a canon picture of Dharhan and at least 1 story more on jodo kast

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Alo Fett wrote:

2. "Wookieepedia is not trustworthy." it's untrustworthy because it can be edited by anyone right? Well guess what so is all the internet just not as much, so if someone is going to make a fake site they will work much harder to do it. And did you see anything on that page that was none canon? No? then don't say it isn't.
I can see your point. But with something like Durge people will fix any messups.I could see if it was something like this http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_King or this, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Raich. but htis is Durge who we all know. so if you see some none canon stuff there please tell me and I'll go fix it.

You answered your own question incorrectly; on Wookieepedia's on the Mandalorians, there was a statement something like "they sucked and got ther a**es kicked lololol." I have also found misinformation on many articles, especially for bounty hunters and the likes. The Mandalorians are probably more well known than Durge, yet their article was faulty.

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And did you fix it??
THats the whole point is that you can fix it just as esay as someone can mess it up.

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Yes, but thaat does not mean that it will stop future misinformation.

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Thylacine wrote:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A'Sharad_Hett
Actually, just more Tusken Raiders in general, but especially A'sharad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yuuzhan_Vong
I don't know why, but they intrigue me.

i just read "the hunt for aura sing" i thought A'sharad Hett, was an intriguing character as well. any character that is conflicted is a well written one.

as far as the vong-i have recently begun to learn about them, they r interesting as well. they seem a bit out of place in the starwars universe.

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everyone but spiker is dead

chuck norris once put his finger in the air and said "bang" and a plane crashed but but boba fett once tapped on something and 3 capital ships crashed.

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I was thinking about this today.

I have been reading the X-Wing to my son when I put him to bed and I have really taken to Corran Horn (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corran_Horn) I enjoyed reading I Jedi. I think he is such a funky character (and from my point of view rather fanciable)

While he is in other books I would love to see him more of a central character.

The same is for Kyp Durron (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kyp_Durron)

Now that I have got to know and like these characters I want to read more about them.

That is all that I can think about for now but I will add more as and when I have a brainwave big_smile

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This is an issue that's been bugging me for a long time...and a big part of the reason I've lost interest in the Star Wars universe for the most part.
You ask why so many interesting characters get created, and then are completely ignored outside of whatever publication they were introduced in.
To sum it up, most authors don't give a rip about anyone else's material.  They'd rather make their own crud than use preexisting elements.  The best examples of this would be the work of Timothy Zahn and Troy Denning, for those of you familiar with their work. Every story they write features elements that aren't found anywhere else in the canon, not even mentioned offhandedly. 
Granted, Zahns work is quite more permanent than most other authors, everyone's familiar with the Chiss and his pet character, Thrawn.  But every novel he writes is completely dedicated to the subjects he's created, and he pretty much ignores anything else out there (ie, Hand of Thrawn duology features a conflict between two races unmentioned anywhere else in canon, that throws the entire galaxy on the brink of civil war). Though again, Zahn is talented enough to get away with that, and a lot of his work is central to the EU universe.

/rant

But I would stab my eye out rather than sitting through more of Troy Denning's insufferable garbage.  If you want to know who's responsible for the dissappearance of quality characters and elements in the SW universe, he's a big part of that problem.
Simply because he does exactly what Zahn does, but lacks the writing talent or creativity to pull it off.  And sadly, he's handed commission after commision for pumping out more of his trash.  Killik Twilight, the shallowly idiotic Squibs he seems detirmined to make main characters, and other annoyingly uninspired elements are the centerpiece of his work. 

/end rant

The crux of the problem is, authors are just too pompous to use other people's material, and feel compelled to make their own stuff--the end result is a universe full of one-time, shallow characters that are ignored even if they're a good concept that could work amazingly well given the proper exposure (namely BalanceSheet, though I admit I am a little biased ^_^).

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Authors try to insert their own creativity on things. If they didnt then they would all be the same. Now, I may not like Troy, but Zahn is not bad at all. He was ASKED by Lucas to create new people and a new threat to the rebels. So he came up with Thrawn. Who was an awsome character. He was an expert tactician and w/e we all know him (if not look him up). But he had to make an enemy to fill Vader's shoes and I think he did pretty well.

"Every story they write features elements that aren't found anywhere else in the canon, not even mentioned offhandedly."

What elements?

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23 (edited by BalanceSheet Monday, November 26, 2007 7:17 pm)

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I'm not saying I have a beef with Zahn, I just wish he'd occasionally use some other peoples material rather than focusing on his own creations, just to give more unity to the overall universe.  The stuff he makes is great, but it all too often gets ignored lately, and it feels like Zahn is about the only one who uses them/writes about them (The Chiss and Talon Karrde being two notable exceptions that have caught on everywhere else).

And yes, Thrawn is awesome.  I'm not discounting that. ^_^

What I mean by that quote is that, for example, Troy's Squibs are never mentioned outside of his novels, where they're almost main characters who show up repeatedly.  Elements of his Dark Nest books (Killiks) are fairly ignored everywhere else(except for the idiotic changes he made to several main characters that outright p*sses me off).  Zahn focuses on his own stuff, and he has a right to do so, but the Hand of Thrawn duology is a prime example of where the author should have used preexisting races instead of creating two new ones that are never mentioned again outside those two books, yet are apparently important enough to almost start a galactic civil war.
There's more than I could possibly list, especially considering I'm not up to date on anything happening in the EU.  My whole point is that authors love their own material above most anyone else's. I'd be the same way if I were writing, though I think these authors are making a huge error in ignoring the wealth of content that already exists, opportunities to build on preexisting characters and elements to make them deeper than before.  I'm all for author's contributing their ideas and creativity, though not at the expense of other people's work.  I would die of happiness if I saw just one of Jeter's original creations from the Bounty Hunter Wars appear anywhere else in continuity.

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Oh alright. understood. I get what you mean about the elements now. Thats actually very true. And not only in Star Wars, but other book series that I like. New people come in and change things that are definitely not to be messed with. Things that make up the very core of what the book series is about.

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ie, making all the young Jedi flipping "Joiners" who rub their forearms together and act like bugs....permanently.

*looks for something to stab Denning with*

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