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52 (edited by Fett_II Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:56 am)

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on a completely unrelated note, look what Batman: The Dark Knight has done! lol http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2008 … 82000.html

looks like we know who you really are, Regimas!

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Lol thats great.  I wonder how long until we see a vigilante with a pointy helmet...

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Fett_II wrote:

on a completely unrelated note, look what Batman: The Dark Knight has done! lol http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2008 … 82000.html

looks like we know who you really are, Regimas!

And people ask why I hate clowns. Who's crazy now?!

I haven't seen it yet. I generally avoid men in tights.

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Does the Joker ever appear without his face paint on?

And does the joker have another name like he does in Batman(1989)?

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I think he does for half a second  during the attempted shooting of the mayor. I've looked for it and I'm ALMOST certain that he's there, sans face paint.

HA! Regimas, i think you did a better costume job than the guy in the news story. Joker didn't wear a wig. He colored his hair. As did you .

PS. There are no men in tights in this movie Draco. Just because once upon a time these characters wore it does not mean that to be so now. Do we really think Christopher Nolan would dress people in spandex? Come on man. *although CB could pull that off wink

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Fett_II wrote:

on a completely unrelated note, look what Batman: The Dark Knight has done! lol http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2008 … 82000.html

looks like we know who you really are, Regimas!

lol, my costume was better smile

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Si Titran wrote:

PS. There are no men in tights in this movie Draco. Just because once upon a time these characters wore it does not mean that to be so now. Do we really think Christopher Nolan would dress people in spandex? Come on man. *although CB could pull that off wink

I don't know who Christopher Noan is, so yes.

Yeah regimas, yours was better, but his story was funnier tongue.

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BFFC-Draco wrote:
Si Titran wrote:

PS. There are no men in tights in this movie Draco. Just because once upon a time these characters wore it does not mean that to be so now. Do we really think Christopher Nolan would dress people in spandex? Come on man. *although CB could pull that off wink

I don't know who Christopher Noan is, so yes.

Yeah regimas, yours was better, but his story was funnier tongue.

Christopher Nolan was the director of both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. He also directed Momento, The Prestige, and Insommnia. He is known for smart and inteliegent movies. Not tacky at all.

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revan07 wrote:

Does the Joker ever appear without his face paint on?

And does the joker have another name like he does in Batman(1989)?

No, that was just a Tim Burton thing. Joker is like Yoda, no origin. Just there.

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revan07 wrote:

Does the Joker ever appear without his face paint on?

And does the joker have another name like he does in Batman(1989)?

The actual Joker doesn't wear face paint, his face is stained that way from a fall into a vat of toxic chemicals. They did not give and origin story in the movie (actually choosing to make him more mysterious, which I liked) but at one point in the movie (when they *assassinate* Gordon) the joker does have his face a normal color in order to blend into the crowd of rifeman. (whether he was not wearing his makeup... or whether he was wearing makeup to cover it is unknown.

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62 (edited by Adeptus_Astartes Friday, August 1, 2008 1:37 pm)

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The toxic/face spill thing may have been removed due to the unlikeliness of it

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Fetterthanyou wrote:
revan07 wrote:

Does the Joker ever appear without his face paint on?

And does the joker have another name like he does in Batman(1989)?

The actual Joker doesn't wear face paint, his face is stained that way from a fall into a vat of toxic chemicals.

Isn't that almost exactly what happened to Two Face and Mr. Freeze? How original is that?

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Adeptus_Astartes wrote:

The toxic/face spill thing may have been removed due to the unlikeliness of it

also because the Joker's origin was never revealed. but, in The Killing Joke, a similar backstory to the Joker's transformation in Tim Burton's film is used.

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Fett_II wrote:

Joker is like Yoda

Except not as awesome, he is. Wins, Yoda does.

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66 (edited by Miba Monday, August 4, 2008 2:55 pm)

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I saw this yesterday and would have to say it sucks. After the first ten-fifteen minutes my husband whispered to me that if I wanted to, we could go home and watch the Burten Batman movies instead. I was very tempted to. But I figured we'd paid to get in, and I was curious to see if it got any better. So we stayed. The only part of the movie worth watching were the last 50 minutes.

The movie was so predictable that me and my husband were having lots of fun saying what was going to come before it happened. Even though neither of us had read any spoilers beforehand.

What was with his voice? o_0 Was he sick or something?

I would hate to live in Gotham City cause those police officers were horrible. When the attempted killing of the mayor was done, well, being surrounded by cops I would assume he would have twelve of them on him in moments. Instead he escaped. ...whhaat? Also, I would think POLICE, who's JOB it is to know these things, would have went, "Huh. Lead poisoning." about the guy with the bomb in his stomach. Or, how about the policeman who just sat there in the truck with Harvey instead of getting to the gun ports?

And why is the Joker alive? Wouldn't any henchmen he had have killed him by now? Seeing as he's obviously crazy enough that everyone who works with him ends up dead. As seen in the beginning where he pitted all the guys against each other. I don't think anyone would work for him. Oh, and the pencil trick? Why didn't those guys there just shoot him that moment? He just killed someone's right hand man. If I was a mob guy I would certainly have killed him right then and there.

And how stupid are people? Bruce Wayne shows up in China. Front page news, internet's buzzing. Everyone knows his face, everyone sees him there. Suddenly! Batman's there too! What a coincidence! Oh, now Wayne's back in Gotham. And so's Batman! What a coincidence!!!! Surely someone would have figured it out???

Didn't someone like the director say they were going for realism? And yet they have Batman FLYING with nothing but his cape. They have a batmobile that's impossible as it would flip over the moment it hit anything. They have a bullet being reconstructed and a fingerprint taken from it, even though anyone with even a basic idea of guns would know this is impossible. They have a semi truck making corners that it's just impossible for semis to make. We have a man jumping on top of a van and crushing it. Maybe in their little fantasy world this is "real", but in the REAL WORLD we call it fantasy.

Oh, and, btw, that's not the Joker.

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Firstly, no one knew that Wayne was in China. They knew he took the Russian ballet group on a cruise.

2. The pencil trick, they didnt kill him cuz....did you not notice the 6 grenades he was about to pull the pin off of?

3. His voice, he has a voice changer so ppl who know bruce wayne and know his voice wont recognize it

4. The fact that the police arent up to par is the whole reason why batman even has a job. If they were such a great police force...there wouldnt be much of a movie would there?

5. Joker being alive. Idk if you were paying attention to the movie much while you were trying to predict it, but did you not hear batman say his one rule is that he does not kill???? The Joker even taunted him and tryed to get batman to kill him because that would mean he was just as insane as the Joker himself. The fact that he DIDNT kill the Joker and the Joker lives sets him apart from the freaks of Arkham

6.You complain about semi's not being able to take corners? and then you want to watch the burton movies????? Did you not see when the freaking batmobile takes 90 degree turns like nothing even tho the wheels probably dont even turn that far on a car designed like that? or when the car SWINGS on a lamppost to take a turn? put it didnt pull the lamp post out?

7. He wasnt only flying with his cape. If you watched carefully, the cape opens up with electrical impulses into a glider. Gliding with style is not flying. And batman glides, he doesnt fly. But he DOES however have a jet in the burton movies that gets SHOT DOWN by the joker with a handgun....thats grea realism there. 

8. that batmobile is a tank, its not going to flip over any time soon.

9. man jumping onto the top of a van and crushing it: Have you ever dropped 200+ pounds that happen to be encased in complete body armor into the top of a crappy little van? Yes, the roof with buckle.

10. The finger prints from the bullet. Ever seen an episode of CSI? its very, very possible. especially with the resources and equipment bruce wayne has access to. When the bullet is pushed into the clip, boom, theres your fingerprint.

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Well the last one is the only thing i have an issue with Val, CSI tends to exaggerate alot of tech and stuff.

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Adeptus_Astartes wrote:

Well the last one is the only thing i have an issue with Val, CSI tends to exaggerate alot of tech and stuff.

They usually don't exaggerate tech as much as use WAAAY too much of it. A usual CSI force will only have a small budget where as the CSI team seems to have millions at their disposal. Which (to get back on topic) Bruce Wayne does have.

Miba - While I respect anyone's decision to like or not like a movie, I have to disagree with your reasoning much in the same way that Val did. You decided in the first 15 minutes that you didn't like it? Was that before or after everyone else in the theater had their eyes glued to the screen gasping at every sentence. 

And yes... THAT IS THE JOKER!!!

BFFC-Draco wrote:

Isn't that almost exactly what happened to Two Face and Mr. Freeze? How original is that?

Not exactly.

Two Face got half his face set on fire in this movie, but in the original story, Sal Maroni throws acid on his face during his trail (which is why I was tricked when the guy pulled the gun mid-movie). You see here it wasn't an accident.

Mr. Freeze got cryogenic materials spilled on him while at his lab. Which is totally different than acid.

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Fetterthanyou wrote:
BFFC-Draco wrote:

Isn't that almost exactly what happened to Two Face and Mr. Freeze? How original is that?

Not exactly.

Two Face got half his face set on fire in this movie, but in the original story, Sal Maroni throws acid on his face during his trail (which is why I was tricked when the guy pulled the gun mid-movie). You see here it wasn't an accident.

Mr. Freeze got cryogenic materials spilled on him while at his lab. Which is totally different than acid.

However, they are all chemicals tongue

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*shakes head at miba

your opinions are your own, but your facts are flawed. if you decide something is bad in the 1st 15 minutes you will be looking for bad things for the rest of the movie just to criticize it. how could the 1st 15 minutes be bad anyways, the joker has 1 line!

anyways, you guys know i have the mask the joker wears in the bank scene right?
well i now have the right hand mans mask too.(the one that gets nailed by the bus)

i have them both on the wall in my room, looks awesome.

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72 (edited by Miba Tuesday, August 5, 2008 2:47 am)

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Valthonin wrote:

Firstly, no one knew that Wayne was in China. They knew he took the Russian ballet group on a cruise.

And then said Russian ballet saw him get into a plane. He had to land somewhere, I'm sure someone saw him. Being a multi-billionaire I'm sure someone would recognize him once he got there, unless he waited in the ocean on his plane till nightfall then changed into his costume.


Valthonin wrote:

2. The pencil trick, they didnt kill him cuz....did you not notice the 6 grenades he was about to pull the pin off of?

Oh, you mean the grenades we didn't see till the end of the scene? The grenades that if he wanted to make go off in the beginning of the scene had to reach under his coat, find a grenade, and pull a pin? Meanwhile someone could have shot him in the time it took for him to get his hand under his coat, muchless find a grenade.


Valthonin wrote:

3. His voice, he has a voice changer so ppl who know bruce wayne and know his voice wont recognize it

Ok, maybe, but it was sitll hard to hear and hard to understand and just kinda... TOO deep. And I'm certainly not the only one, there was even an article on how many people didn't like his voice on yahoo's movie articles.


Valthonin wrote:

4. The fact that the police arent up to par is the whole reason why batman even has a job. If they were such a great police force...there wouldnt be much of a movie would there?

I guess so. But that's saying the entire police force is a joke. They seemed to be doing alright by the end.


Valthonin wrote:

5. Joker being alive. Idk if you were paying attention to the movie much while you were trying to predict it, but did you not hear batman say his one rule is that he does not kill???? The Joker even taunted him and tryed to get batman to kill him because that would mean he was just as insane as the Joker himself. The fact that he DIDNT kill the Joker and the Joker lives sets him apart from the freaks of Arkham

I never said that Batman would have killed him, I said one of the Joker's henchmen would have. They would have gone, "You know, working for this guy, he's TOO crazy, I'm going to end up dead just like everyone else who works for him. I think I'm getting out now. BLAM"


Valthonin wrote:

6.You complain about semi's not being able to take corners? and then you want to watch the burton movies????? Did you not see when the freaking batmobile takes 90 degree turns like nothing even tho the wheels probably dont even turn that far on a car designed like that? or when the car SWINGS on a lamppost to take a turn? put it didnt pull the lamp post out?

Alright, it's been a while since I last saw the movie, I'd forgotten that part.


Valthonin wrote:

7. He wasnt only flying with his cape. If you watched carefully, the cape opens up with electrical impulses into a glider. Gliding with style is not flying. And batman glides, he doesnt fly. But he DOES however have a jet in the burton movies that gets SHOT DOWN by the joker with a handgun....thats grea realism there.

Maybe that should have been explained then. I didn't see any electrical stuff. I'm sorry if the casual audience doesn't study these things.

Valthonin wrote:

8. that batmobile is a tank, its not going to flip over any time soon.

Tanks have large front wheels and baby back wheels?


Valthonin wrote:

9. man jumping onto the top of a van and crushing it: Have you ever dropped 200+ pounds that happen to be encased in complete body armor into the top of a crappy little van? Yes, the roof with buckle.

Have you done this?


Valthonin wrote:

10. The finger prints from the bullet. Ever seen an episode of CSI? its very, very possible. especially with the resources and equipment bruce wayne has access to. When the bullet is pushed into the clip, boom, theres your fingerprint.

A bullet pushed into the clip, yes, MIGHT still have a fingerprint on it, even if it is a smudged one from being rubbed around inside the clip. Being shot out of the gun would indeed make the circular scratches on the casing that would show which gun it came from. But these scratches would pretty much destroy the fingerprint. And then, going through a wall, the wall would brush the sides of the bullet, farther smudging up the fingerprint. Then the tiny explosion of the bullet would obliterate the rest of the fingerprint. And, even if you were somehow able to put the casing back together, all the cracks of the shards would distort the fingerprint so badly that it would be impossible to tell who's fingerprint it is. Common sense.

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Small details. I think its a lot about the movie as a whole. Anymovie can be nit picked to peices. 

And the whole electrified cape into a glider was fully explained in Batman Begins.  Not just looking for small detail. Just remembering plot from the other movie.

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Miba wrote:
Valthonin wrote:

Firstly, no one knew that Wayne was in China. They knew he took the Russian ballet group on a cruise.

And then said Russian ballet saw him get into a plane. He had to land somewhere, I'm sure someone saw him. Being a multi-billionaire I'm sure someone would recognize him once he got there, unless he waited in the ocean on his plane till nightfall then changed into his costume.

You would be supprised what you can do with an old hoodie a fake beard and some dirt.

Miba wrote:
Valthonin wrote:

2. The pencil trick, they didnt kill him cuz....did you not notice the 6 grenades he was about to pull the pin off of?

Oh, you mean the grenades we didn't see till the end of the scene? The grenades that if he wanted to make go off in the beginning of the scene had to reach under his coat, find a grenade, and pull a pin? Meanwhile someone could have shot him in the time it took for him to get his hand under his coat, muchless find a grenade.

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Miba wrote:
Valthonin wrote:

8. that batmobile is a tank, its not going to flip over any time soon.

Tanks have large front wheels and baby back wheels?

When Valthinin says "That Batmobile is a tank" he means like a random passerby would say if he saw the thing barreling down the road impervious to all small arms fire. Basically casual observation. I.E. "That things a f*ckin' tank!" If we have to get technical about it I would call it an armored assault vehicle, which is basically what it was designed for. ((ok, it was designed to be used as a bridging vehicle, but to call it something other then an armored assault vehicle when it has all that armor would be kind of stupid dont you think?))

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Miba wrote:
Valthonin wrote:

5. Joker being alive. Idk if you were paying attention to the movie much while you were trying to predict it, but did you not hear batman say his one rule is that he does not kill???? The Joker even taunted him and tryed to get batman to kill him because that would mean he was just as insane as the Joker himself. The fact that he DIDNT kill the Joker and the Joker lives sets him apart from the freaks of Arkham

I never said that Batman would have killed him, I said one of the Joker's henchmen would have. They would have gone, "You know, working for this guy, he's TOO crazy, I'm going to end up dead just like everyone else who works for him. I think I'm getting out now. BLAM"

Charles Manson had followers, and he was pretty crazy. He thought a Beatles song was telling him start a race war that would wipe out most of the world.

Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, and George Bush all had followers.

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