Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars

The lines are a different story, but most of it was proffessional canon.

TW

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Just becasue it was cannon (and I dont care what lucas says: I do not consider the character convos to be cannon) doesnt mean it wasnt targeted at a younger audience.

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153 (edited by Miba Friday, September 12, 2008 1:00 pm)

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Mandal_ShadowWarrior wrote:

The lines for the characters were corny and stupid...somthing only a five year old would find really entertaining/funny.

It seems there's a lot of that going on everywhere.... And this is only a brief example.

ANH:
"Oops, I think we took a wrong turn."
"One thing's for sure, we're all going to be a lot thinner."
"What a wonderful smell you've discovered."
"I use them for smuggling. I never thought I'd be smuggling myself in them. This is ridiculous."
"Where did you dig up that old fossil?"
"Boring conversation anyway. Luke, we're gonna have company!"
"Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?"

ESB:
"It's a good thing you don't taste very good." (I know it's not in some versions...)
"Why, you stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf-herder."
"Mudhole? Slimy? My home this is!"
"I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee."
"I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain."
"Would it help if I got out and pushed?"


ROTJ:
"I''m rather embarrassed, General Solo, but it appears that you are to be the main course at a banquet in my honor."
"When 900 years old look as good you will not, hm?"
"I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur, I see a big bright blur."
"Just what I always wanted. "

Han Solo: Together again, huh?
Luke: Wouldn't miss it.
Han Solo: How we doin'?
Luke: Same as always.
Han Solo: That bad, huh?

C-3PO: I do believe they think I am some kind of god.
Han Solo: Well, why don't you use your divine influence and get us out of this?
C-3PO: I beg your pardon General Solo, but that just wouldn't be proper.
Han Solo: Proper?
C-3PO: It's against my programming to impersonate a deity.

True Warrior wrote:

Where is she from?
Whats her backround story?
Did she survive order 66?
Did Vader slaughter her along with the other jedi in order 66?
Did she acheive the rank of master?

She's a Togruta, probably from the Togruta homeworld of Shili.
Her background is probably the same as any other Jedi; she was taken to the temple when she was a baby and raised as a normal Jedi youngling, specifics might come later but that's the basics of it probably.
No.
No.
No.

Seeing as Anakin wasn't promoted to Master it's impossible that Ahsoka even survives to the end of the tv series, let alone makes it to Order 66, Vader, or the rank of Master.

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Good point. I'm just glad she dies. I don't like her much. If she was hardcore like Shaak Ti then mabe I would like her more.

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I think she was a natural and creative with her saber skills and with the force. Plus, I believe Miba is right...............almost every Star Wars movie had corny lines in them. That doesnt mean it cant be a decent movie. In ANH, R2D2 and C3PO were considered the comedy relief of the story ( and they've said some stupid stuff). So if you really observe, you can tell that its not just in THIS movie.

TW

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So your saying that the other SW movies are just as corny as this one?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

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Commander Appo wrote:

Good point. I'm just glad she dies. I don't like her much. If she was hardcore like Shaak Ti then mabe I would like her more.

Exactly. She brings shame to her race. Togruta are naturally fierce, not whiny like Ashoka (close enough) is. Shaak Ti IS hardcore ( and I love her for it)!

I don't think CW is entirely a kids movie, nor is it entirely adult either. I laugh at some of those lines, whether its out of ridiculousness or actual comedic skill I don't know ( but i think its the first reason).

Personally I am choosing to view most of this as non canon. If he had chosen different Jedi to focus the story on then I might think differently, but Skywalker's exploits have been fully told, thus making this one with a Padawan NOT possible a long with the rest of the story. And I think they are truly setting Ashoka to die because there is that one line Yoda says to Obi Wan as Anakin and her are getting on a transport about Anakin being prepared to lose/ let her go.

As for the Mandalorianization of the GAR and Clones, I think that was held mostly to the commando program, which was headed up by actual Mandalorians. I don't think that the comics are 100% canon, but this is an old argument over what is canon and what is not. I have a hierarchy as what is.... Film ( excluding the CW), Books, then comics. And it depends on what in the book works with the movies and so forth. Its complicated... but I digress...... I don't think that ALL the Mandalorians were killed in that battle. A LOT sure, but not ALL. I'm sure some would have survived or chosen not to fight. And 20 years is a long time, giving younger Mando's time to mature.  I think that as humans the clones craved belonging and culture, so when any scrap, as say Dha Werda comes to them they would embrace it fully.

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Si Titran wrote:

As for the Mandalorianization of the GAR and Clones, I think that was held mostly to the commando program, which was headed up by actual Mandalorians.

I haven't even seen it, but I've seen a commentary with clips, and there is no way clone troopers were that individualized. You don't have much individuality when you live and fight with hundreds of others just like you. Nor were they engineered to have much free will. The Commandos, who had considerably more free will, didn't even go as far as died hair or tattoos, etc.

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She dies before RotS even takes place. That gives you some background info on how long we get to hang around with her.

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Si Titran wrote:

I think that as humans the clones craved belonging and culture, so when any scrap, as say Dha Werda comes to them they would embrace it fully.

That actually makes sense to me. I hadn't thought of it that way before. Congratulations on being among the first to make me hate Traviss less. lol

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162 (edited by Commander Appo Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:41 am)

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Si Titran wrote:
Commander Appo wrote:

Good point. I'm just glad she dies. I don't like her much. If she was hardcore like Shaak Ti then maybe I would like her more.

Exactly. She brings shame to her race. Togruta are naturally fierce, not whiny like Ashoka (close enough) is. Shaak Ti IS hardcore ( and I love her for it)!.

------------------SPOILER ALERT-------------------------

I was upset to learn the Shaak Ti dies in The Force Unleashed.

----------------If you read this and are mad at me for giving it away before you play the game, it's not my fault because I WARNED YOU-----------------------END OF SPOILER ALERT-----------------------

Well, I hope they show how Ahsoka dies at the end of the series. They probably won't kill her off, though. She'll just get lost on some planet somewhere and they can't find her.

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In response to your "spoiler" for Force Unleashed, I must tell you that this character's fate is resolved in the ROTS novel, not this game.

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Nope, you're wrong Miba. Shaak Ti has officially died three times.

1. Beginning of Revenge of the Sith, aboard Invisible Hand, due to a lightsaber in the throat by General Grievous (episode 3 deleted scene).
2. The Revenge of the Sith novel, at the Jedi Temple when Anakin invades, from a lightsaber duel with Skywalker.
3. In The Force Unleashed, by codename Starkiller who was assigned to find and kill Shaak Ti by Darth Vader during the Purge. This is the canon death.

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I was already aware of Shaak Ti in the Force Unleashed, sad as it is. But that's the thing. We all know that the Jedi are being killed and hunted down, so it is enviable. I feel her death there brings much more honor to a glorious character, than either of her other "supposed" deaths. Isn't that the best any of can have? A honorable glorious death? If only I should be so lucky.

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Miba wrote:

In response to your "spoiler" for Force Unleashed, I must tell you that this character's fate is resolved in the ROTS novel, not this game.

Sorry, but that's not true. Lucas said that Shaak Ti's demise in the ROTS novel and in the ROTS deleted scenes isn't canon, but her death in TFU is.

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167 (edited by Alo Fett Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:06 pm)

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Yes. all the above are right. I also like this death the best out of the other ones. I have read the TFU graphic novel and the way she dies (I will not give it away) is much better than being executed by Grievous or Vader. She plays a bigger role than before as well. And seeing as she is one of the few jedi I like I am glad she gets some show (or should I say game) time other then the clone wars cartoon (witch I loved her in btw.)  http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w90/albenjammin/Ssakkti2.gif
You gotta admit she's cute.
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Yeah, to bad she doesnt look like that in the movie...

(in the movie shes rather ugly)

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Yeah I agree, but she's my favorite female Jedi still. She kicked @$$ in that CW cartoon.

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170 (edited by Miba Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:48 pm)

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I already knew about the deleted scene death, but as that was cut from the movie and was different in the book... And I was under the impression that books are higher canon than games. And if Lucas really said that provide me with a link to starwars.com where he's saying that, and if he's saying books are lower forms of canon these days we really should update the rots novel and re-release it.

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Miba wrote:

I already knew about the deleted scene death, but as that was cut from the movie and was different in the book... And I was under the impression that books are higher canon than games. And if Lucas really said that provide me with a link to starwars.com where he's saying that, and if he's saying books are lower forms of canon these days we really should update the rots novel and re-release it.

Lucas has nothing to do with books most decisions in books..  But he did approve this game.  And I assume the escape of one of the Jedi was one of the ideas they would have passed by him.

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But surely the movie novel he had to approve. And besides, as I already said, where does he specifically say the official movie novel is no longer canon?

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That's dumb to not have the novel canon...Lucas has made several mistakes and inconsistencies in the movies, but saying the books were non-canon, then why are we still reading them?

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no the books are still canon, just Shaak Ti's death in the novel/deleted scene are not. i think Lucas was just trying to figure out a way to have her killed off, and felt that TFU was best. if you ask me, her deaths in Episode III were t3h suck (could've been better).

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So like I said, he should issue a recall on the novel, make an announcement on sw.com (I have yet to find a quote of him saying all this stuff he supposedly said), and then re-release the novel. I doubt very much he said that she should die in TFU and the novel is out. It would be very stupid.

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