26 (edited by Nigzy Friday, August 29, 2008 6:25 am)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Your turning this into SW vs space marines only

The battle barge you provdided a picture of is a venrable, space wolves battle barge, Which is not an actual battle barge but only a cruiser which serves as a battle barge by only name

That picture of a dark trooper looks just like a bigger imp really, no difference in the armor it seems.

And your At ats would be decimated by a titan which could lay waste to thousands if not tens of thousands of imps.

And battle barges dont carry many men because they dont need to, you forget that those 800 space marines even less can take a whole planetary system extremely fast. The battle barge is practically a flying city. Then you get the likes of the fortress monestries which some chapters use as there flag ship this can be as big as large moon

Space marine terminators also need to be brought in, wearing tactical dreadnaught armor these elite are very hard to be took down,

And warhammer pictures are hard to find due to it being a table top game where as star wars has its movies for pictures.

As for your jedi's Libarians can use there type of the 'force' to practically make there minds explode, or Chaos libarians can use it to take there minds off them turning them into obediant little puppies.

Then the chaos has there gods too.
Necrons are pretty much invincible, after there destroyed years later they can rebuild themselves
Daemon hunter; grey knights can be prettyyy darn handy too

And as for your planet destroyers they require shielding from a seperate source right?
A strike team of kasrkins or space marines can take this out one by one, take over the death star using boarding torpedoes and wa'la warhammer universe have a host of star destroyers, bring in the mechaneus dudes, up gun them with a few bits and bobs.

The imperial guard number in there tens of billions capable fighting soldiers with billions of tanks at there command.

The space battles will be a close battle but i think that the boarding of the bigger ships by space marines and the elite of the other races would just about win it for the space marines.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Ok then. Tryanids. 40k wins. Chaos. 40 k wins. Necrons 40k wins.

Oh then this. Orks united one massive wave of millions upon millions of greenskins swarming through the deathstar. No matter how hard starwars fights, even with halo as an ally, they lose. Mandal, ships can only move so fast, no AI will change that. The death star can only be in one place at one time, and an AT-AT isnt all that strong. So many of you forget about chaos, the dark gods would find many followers in the SW universe i think. And mandal, if a bolt punctures your skull and explodes theres no way you can survive.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

The reason this is turning into a SW versus Space Marines only was because someone said that the Space Marines could take on the entire SW universe AND Halo.

And you CAN surrvive a bolt exsplding inside your head...If you have the correct amount of power in the right areas of the force.

An dark troopers armor is made out of phrik (spelling?) that can stand up to a lightsaber...and need I point out the size of there weapons? And thats only Mark II, Mark III can get a whole lot bigger. Capable of easily picking up a AT-ST.

While Titans of the 40k universe are large and have lots of firepower, they are not produced on the scale of AT-ATs, AND there are bigger/better versions of the AT-AT (AA i think youve seen a pic of one) which have more more armor and weaponry. Also an excelent anti-titan weapon would be the Self-Propelled Heavy Artillery Unit ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Self-Pro … _Artillery ) Which can bring down bigger targets than the Titans (these are mass produced as well)

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29 (edited by Fett_II Friday, August 29, 2008 12:15 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Of course, Chuck Norris would destroy all of this with the blink of his eye. But that's for kicks and giggles.

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

The WH followers, mainly Nigzy and AA, keep supporting WH and saying it would win with little to no evidence. AA, you listed like 4 different races there that would win. Evidence? none.

Nigzy, you think the librarians would just take over a Force users mind like it was nothing. The librarians PALE in comparison to one Jedi. Librarians are merely elite troops with powers while Jedi are capable of commanding armies and achieving unbelievable feats.

Me and Mandal continuously bring hard facts to the table while WH is constantly defended by just blurting out 'BIGGER BETTER FASTER STRONGER'. All you guys keep saying is "This would lay waste to that. This would decimate that." But WHY???? Because they look cool or something? HOW ARE AT-AT's NOT ALL THAT STRONG? Their heavy canons OBLITHERATE stuff. In a few shots it would destroy any kind of heavy artillery or vehicle.

The fortresses that are sometimes used as flag ships? Death Star would blow them out of the sky. Boarding torpedoes? Destroyed before they reach the Death Star by the billions of snub fighters, destroyers, cruisers, and everything else the SW universe would have flying around.

You guys just always SAY that WH would win. No numbers, no actual critical thinking here. The TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of troops vehicles, artillery, fighters, Jedi, Sith, mandos, cruisers, destroyers, Death Star....There would be so many damn beings occupying one general battle zone that it would wash over the WH forces.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Necrons, they can not die, they move forward in an undending tide. Tryanids, they consume like and use it to make more of them billions of creatures all increasingly deadly. The Deamons of Chaos would consume all before them, in a shower of blood fire and flame.

Ever see an Emporer Class Titan? it would step on a AT-AT, I'm still on vacation, and i'm stressed about alot of stuff so forgive me if my arguments are not up to your standards oh lord of role playing section

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Adeptus_Astartes wrote:

I'm still on vacation, and i'm stressed about alot of stuff so forgive me if my arguments are not up to your standards oh lord of role playing section

Guess what, theyre not. If you wanna debat then bring more to the table then a sentence saying "WH is better."

And I think you deserve that title. After all you post on every RPG................with the same character, just a different name. At least when I use the same character, it actually IS the same character. Sometimes I even make it interesting and have their family members, instead of just posting the same dark, super awesome, anti hero with crazy armor, and crazy powers. But excuse me for actually trying to make things interesting. Maybe I should also post over-powered anti heroes too, you seem to like it so much.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Actually, Spaceball 1 would destroy that Emperor Class Titan.

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

I have noticed no one had bothered to mention something beside Imperial war might. Why was such effort spent to create such a overwhelming force of battle prowess? Anyone?


YUUZHAN VONG.

A war hungry, pain worshiping race and society. That knows how to destroy whole worlds, with out a single blast being fired. They are known for being "brutal, merciless, and unstoppable." Could they not alone compete with WH? Let alone with combined forces?

Sorry but SW is grossly over powering WH.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

are all the factions in WH40K human or non-human?

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

SW, hands down. The stormtroopers would overwhelm any force. The Rebellion would never back down. The Jedi and Sith would use their awesome knowledge of the Force to make any enemy stop in their tracks. The Mandos would have a new challenge to rise to. Jar Jar would annoy them to death. The Yuuzhan Vong can die off for all I care...Nothing can defeat the SW universe; unless God was part of this topic.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Mandalore Hunter wrote:

SW, hands down. The stormtroopers would overwhelm any force.

The Rebellion would never back down.

The Jedi and Sith would use their awesome knowledge of the Force to make any enemy stop in their tracks.

The Mandos would have a new challenge to rise to.

Jar Jar would annoy them to death. The Yuuzhan Vong can die off for all I care...Nothing can defeat the SW universe; unless God was part of this topic.

The stormtroopers can overwhelm any force? I guess little furry creatuses with sticks and stones don't count...

Even if the Rebels didn't back down, they would still be decimated.

Not nearly enough Jedi and Sith for that to even almost work.

Mandalorians are formidable, but read the descriptions of the Warhammer 40,000 characters.

Jar Jar would be killed.

Valthonian wrote:

Guess what, theyre not. If you wanna debat then bring more to the table then a sentence saying "WH is better."

And I think you deserve that title. After all you post on every RPG................with the same character, just a different name. At least when I use the same character, it actually IS the same character. Sometimes I even make it interesting and have their family members, instead of just posting the same dark, super awesome, anti hero with crazy armor, and crazy powers. But excuse me for actually trying to make things interesting. Maybe I should also post over-powered anti heroes too, you seem to like it so much.

Dude, calm down.

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38 (edited by Valthonin Friday, August 29, 2008 6:57 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

BFFC-Dracö wrote:
Valthonian wrote:

Guess what, theyre not. If you wanna debat then bring more to the table then a sentence saying "WH is better."

And I think you deserve that title. After all you post on every RPG................with the same character, just a different name. At least when I use the same character, it actually IS the same character. Sometimes I even make it interesting and have their family members, instead of just posting the same dark, super awesome, anti hero with crazy armor, and crazy powers. But excuse me for actually trying to make things interesting. Maybe I should also post over-powered anti heroes too, you seem to like it so much.

Dude, calm down.

He crossed the line, not me. Lord of the Role Playing Section? I'm so done with RPG's here...


And you minused me for berating him without reason? His sarcastic inuslt isn't a reason? Re read his post and check his tone before you consider minusing my karma please.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Draco i see you choose to forget about the other fomidable armies and fleets in the SW universe. What about the Chiss and the Vong? What about say the other species that are warriors like the Ngorhi ( i know i spelled that wrong...)

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

No, he didn't. It's called a joke. I seriously doubt he meant that. Even I'm not egotistical enough to mean something like that.

On topic, Warhammer's army would destroy those from Sta Wars. I'm not familiar enough with Halo to say.

Edit:

Valthonian wrote:

And you minused me for berating him without reason? His sarcastic inuslt isn't a reason? Re read his post and check his tone before you consider minusing my karma please.

You can't tell tone from a post, but I do see how that could be an insult. However, you were attacking (or what seemed like attacking by your 'tone') him for not giving evidence for his ideas, instead of saying something akin to "care to explain a little more," especially since his posts were not completely devoid of explanation.

And you went on to attack (and it was most certainly an attack) him for his actions in unrelated RPGs, which had nothing to do with what you or he said. That was without reason.

Si wrote:

Draco i see you choose to forget about the other fomidable armies and fleets in the SW universe. What about the Chiss and the Vong? What about say the other species that are warriors like the Ngorhi ( i know i spelled that wrong...)

I don't choose to forget, I just actually forgot them. Warhammer also has the Chaos Gods, the Lost and the Damned, the Tau, the Sisters of Battle, Daemon Hunters, Necrons, etc.

take it easy baby take it as it comes

41 (edited by Valthonin Friday, August 29, 2008 7:22 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

BFFC-Dracö wrote:

No, he didn't. It's called a joke. I seriously doubt he meant that. Even I'm not egotistical enough to mean something like that.

Ok then. The hell with it, I was joking too.










(sarcasm implied.)

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42 (edited by Mandal_ShadowWarrior Friday, August 29, 2008 7:30 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Storm Troopers I must say have numbers, but not really alot of skill intill the new jedi order era. The thought of them overwhelming Space Marines is rather comical.

And guys come on we dont have to get ugly here, I can sense alot of the frustation coming from AA becasue of the ignorance of some of the people here.

Space Marines versus any one or even two factions in star wars and they would win. Just remember that they are 9 foot tall giants who would wrestle with wookies for fun..out of armor. They have miniture cannons with high calibur (spelling?) weapons that would shred alot things in SW. (plus they got diff tips like the flame ones) There armor is very thick. Heres a pic for referance

http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarin … gnette.jpg

The armor would most likely take quite a few blaster bolts before being compromised, and even then SMs can take an insane amount of damage before they actaully die.

So SW fans...Be respectful of the might of the Imperium. Dont say that somthing like a storm trooper of the Civil war age could take on the mightest warriors of Man.

Its like saying a gungan could take on a Mando...It just isint right.


But still as powerful as the SMs are they can NOT take on ALL the factions of star wars.  Thats my main complaint.

However ALL the factions of 40k WOULD proably win given time, but not just the Imperium.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

I think Halo would be beaten down first, the firepower from WH or SW alone is enough to take on that universe.

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Valthonin wrote:
BFFC-Dracö wrote:

No, he didn't. It's called a joke. I seriously doubt he meant that. Even I'm not egotistical enough to mean something like that.

Ok then. The hell with it, I was joking too.




(sarcasm implied.)

You're right on that. I misread his original post. I edited my above post as a continuation of our debate.



It's been a while, but don't the Marines have numerous implanted body parts that allow them to essentially always be awake, among other things? those would be pretty helpful.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

And the Witches of Dathomir.....

There is a lot, more than would suffice for a stright victory for WH. WH would certainly pose a formidable threat, and im sure they would fight hard and many in the SW galaxy would die. But if i came down to all of the galaxy uniting for the destruction of WH, then they would fall.

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46 (edited by Mandal_ShadowWarrior Friday, August 29, 2008 7:40 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

ALL the factions of 40k would win given TIME....just trust me guys. But simply just Imperium? I dont think so.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

In terms of navy I would have to give this to Star Wars.  I'm quite sure that Star Wars has much heavier firepower.  And the speed of their vessels I would think easily outmatches that of WH40K.  (Hypderdrive anyone?)

For army it sounds as if a Space Marine alone could take on a Jedi.  I don't know much about the rest of the 40K universe.  This one for me is a toss up.

I feel kind stupid with this short post with everyone else's uber-long posts.  But it is just an opinion.  If anyone has a rebuttal perhaps I may invest some more time.

Hmm.  Rebuttal, I like that word.  (Had to throw in a Deadpool quote.)

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

Ok, Val, sorry about that, i'm realy stressed out and stuff, and I kind of just snapped
Now, moving on.

I dont realy have time or knowledge for all the details, but a titan is much bigger then an AT-AT, and the forces of 40k are obscenely powerful, the tryanids are stronger then the Yuzhan(sp) Vong, more vicious, more numerous. The Necrons are an army of skeletal droids that do not die, their weapons eat through armor like it was paper. Chaos is also numerous, and Chaos Marines are much stronger then normal Space Marines.The imperial guard would simply charge, like the ocean waves eroding the rock, if nothing else The space marines would be used for more surgical strikes i think, storming bases and such. Navy i dont realy know. It could go either way there i think. Space marines would excel in boarding action, so would chaos and Eldar. I think that with all the factions united that there is simply no way they can lose. Creatures that literaly consume all life on a planet allied with the best warriors humanity has ever known and those that were once their brothers but turned on them for more power, a race of psychic warriors as graceful as they are deadly, the corrupted version of them, Giant creatures that, though not bright are imensly powerful and only do not conquer the galaxy because of the fighting amongst the tribes (which are united now mind you), Droids intent on extinguishing all life in the galaxy for their gods, An army that is simply legion, with millions of soldiers at their desposial, all deemed expendable, (and their tanks) The mechanium, the followers of the machine-god and their titans. An all female witch hunting army (and the psykers they formerly hunted). One thing applies to the forces of the 40k universe. They are Legion. For they are many.

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Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

hmmm...very dramtic there AA.

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50 (edited by Ralin Drakus Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:56 pm)

Re: WH40K vs. SW vs. Halo

At first I would have said SW would win just because they'd outnumber 40K so much....but that was when I thought 40K was only a few worlds worth of ppl.

Now I have no clue, and shall leave this one to the 'experts'

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