Topic: Darth Vader vs. Darth Sidious

Who would emerge victorious.  My money is on Vader, Cwolf says Palpatine.

Say who you think would win, and why.

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easy Sidious wins plain and simple u wanna know why ill tell u why Sidious>Yoda>Darth Vader

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*sigh*

Don't you think that possibly not all the ranks that everyone has made in star wars should be summed up due to one skirmish or battle between a few characters?  Just because Sidious beat Yoda doesn't mean ****.  The only reason Yoda ran off is because more storm troopers were going to back sidiouses panzy *** up.

I think that Vader clearly has the potential to beat Sidious.  He has the emotion, and hatred enough.  He even has enough skill to realize when he's being stupid, and go back to the light side.

Vader doesn't ever kill Sidious, because he looks up to him.

That's what I think.

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disagree here again Yoda alone said he failed knowing that he tried his hardest and palpatine was yet too much for yoda so then again yes i do think it should be based on one skirmish because they all fought their hardest in that one skirmish did they not?

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Yoda didn't say, I tried my hardest, and he is just way too strong man, I give up.

Yoda said he failed, meaning he failed to kill darth sidious.  Have you ever played a video game, and failed on a whim, and then come back and owned?

To honestly judge, you would have to do a scientific experiment.  This requires three trials!

and no friggin troopers to interfere

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lol yah u own them because its always the same battle or same level and nothing changes or if it does its the same thing but in different order.... and Yoda did try his hardest why wouldn't he... he is to intellgent not to

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Yoda also made lightsaber form Zero, which is the form of not fighting at all.  Yoda didn't lose, he simply ran out of time, because sidious was being a faggot, throwing **** from a distance like a panzy.  Notice any time that Yoda got close, Palpatine **** his pants.

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lol thats part of a fight ne thing goes and yoda doesnt know any offensive force powers to my knowledge but if he did he obvisouly thought they were worthless or he would have used them wouldn't he have?

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Chase.

I swear to god.  You dare question Yodas force skills?

I say we make a new blog, Yoda vs palpatine.

Then we will see.

Do it.

Everyone dies.  I bow to no one and I give service only for cause.

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Oh for god's sake Yoda was defeated period! Just admit Sidious is more powerful. And Darth Vader cannot kill Sidious by himself. At the most it is somehow a draw. Anyways I remember I read a quote from Lucas that said Vader was 80% as powerful as Sidious.

"Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the privilege."

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Sidious and the emperor that got thrown down the shaft in  ROTJ are the same person. Vader killed Sidious there, and if youve played ROTS, the bonus lvl, anakin kills obiwan then kills Sidious. Its over, Vader kicks ***, Sidious get's *** rash.

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yeah what a pathetic scream that sidious made while falling!

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I think Vader would win because Sidious trusted that Vader was under his power. Had Anakin sided with Mace I think they would have defeated Sidious. I think it would have been a good fight.

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yeah, anakin would clearly wi against sidious but i think mace would die! Even though he's very experienced!

You've been holding out on us again haven't you? Since you haven't given us enough money, I'll guess I'll have to take it out of you piece by piece! - Unknown Mandalorian.

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Sidious in his prime would definatly win.

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lol 1st of all Games dont count they are games villmar.... and we are saying if they squared off not if they got suprised like Palpatine did by vader in ROTJ.... this isnt a hard answer palpatine was the more powerful jedi do u remeber palpatine in episode 3 taking down what 2 master jedi within seconds... and we dont know if he actually lost to mace or if he just planned it to make anakin become his puppet

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Mace_Windu_ wrote:

lol 1st of all Games dont count they are games villmar.... and we are saying if they squared off not if they got suprised like Palpatine did by vader in ROTJ.... this isnt a hard answer palpatine was the more powerful jedi do u remeber palpatine in episode 3 taking down what 2 master jedi within seconds... and we dont know if he actually lost to mace or if he just planned it to make anakin become his puppet

Yeah Villimar exactly what I was going to say. He only killed Sidious because he was busy frying Luke like chicken. And we do know that Sidious didn't lose to Mace; he made it look like he was going to be killed when Anakin came so that he would side with him. If Anakin came in and Sidious was frying Mace who do you think Anakin would've saved? He STILL might side with Sidious, but he wouldn't make the decision as quickly as he did.

"Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the privilege."

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Both sides have very good points. 

Unfortunatley I still am not going to change my point of view on this because I guess I'm stubborn.  I don't think it's fair to base who is better anyways because it's a movie!  The underdog quite often comes out on top anyways.  So who is to judge who is better, based on one fight?  I'm sure there are tons of times for example where a jedi would get killed, and boba fett for example would live. 

All I'm trying to say is that it's a movie, followed by movie guidlines. 

Boba Fett captured Han Solo, but the Han Solo put Fett into the pit.  Who is better?

It's just silly.

Everyone dies.  I bow to no one and I give service only for cause.

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Luke beat Vader, does that mean that Luke is better than Vader?  They fight twice, but Luke wins once, and Vader wins once.  Who is to decide based on one fight?

Everyone dies.  I bow to no one and I give service only for cause.

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Haha, we are talking about who is better.  Then I realized it doesn't even matter.  No one is to judge I think.  We can only assume.

Everyone dies.  I bow to no one and I give service only for cause.

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Mandalorian wrote:

Both sides have very good points. 

Unfortunatley I still am not going to change my point of view on this because I guess I'm stubborn.  I don't think it's fair to base who is better anyways because it's a movie!  The underdog quite often comes out on top anyways.  So who is to judge who is better, based on one fight?  I'm sure there are tons of times for example where a jedi would get killed, and boba fett for example would live. 

All I'm trying to say is that it's a movie, followed by movie guidlines. 

Boba Fett captured Han Solo, but the Han Solo put Fett into the pit.  Who is better?

It's just silly.

Well it depends what you mean. If you're asking who would win in a fight, Boba. Who's the better hunter? Boba. Who has better social skills? Solo. Who is the better smuggler? Han. It depends what the topic is. Also that is what rivals are: 2 conflicting people who are hard to say which one is better.

green helmeted fett wrote:

what!? who's better at sending posts than anyone else?  ....!!?

Thats not what he meant. How old are you? 9?

"Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the privilege."

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I think Vader could have taken Sidious before he was turned into TorsoBoy by Obi-Wan.  He was growing more and more powerful by the minute, and even Sidious admits Vader would one day surpass him.  Also, I think either a sourcebook or Lucas himself states Vader could have taken Sidious before he lost his limbs.  It's after he is encased in the infamous black body armor is his power reduced to 80 % of Sidious's.  In which case Sidious could have just fried him with force lightning, as Vader would have been unable to counter.

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Kyr'am_Ordo wrote:

I think Vader could have taken Sidious before he was turned into TorsoBoy by Obi-Wan.  He was growing more and more powerful by the minute, and even Sidious admits Vader would one day surpass him.  Also, I think either a sourcebook or Lucas himself states Vader could have taken Sidious before he lost his limbs.  It's after he is encased in the infamous black body armor is his power reduced to 80 % of Sidious's.  In which case Sidious could have just fried him with force lightning, as Vader would have been unable to counter.

Yes that is exactly what I meant.

"Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the privilege."

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ohhh, thanks mace.

You've been holding out on us again haven't you? Since you haven't given us enough money, I'll guess I'll have to take it out of you piece by piece! - Unknown Mandalorian.