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FettFan79 wrote:

I would agree to that

Ditto.

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I happened to trip over this while browsing wookieepedia. Thought it might answer a lot of questions. (Or at least take care of the dead beat dad fears.)

In the decades between the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War, Fett took a leave of absence from the hunt, and attempted to live a normal life on the world of Concord Dawn. He attained the rank of Journeyman Protector and as such was mistaken by many to be the long-dead Jaster Mereel, the mentor of Boba's dead father.

It was during this time that Boba met Sintas Vel, a Kiffar bounty hunter, in what was perhaps Boba's only true close relationship since the death of his father. Boba and Sintas eventually married and had a daughter — Ailyn Vel. Unfortunately, the marriage did not last.

The title of Journeyman Protector was stripped from Fett after he had killed another fellow Protector, and he was forced to leave the planet in exile. All alone in the Galaxy once again, Boba hoped to banish the disappointing memories of his failed attempt at a "normal" life through honing his craft.

Linky: http://sw1mush.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett

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Uh-huh. And why didn't Sintas follow him in his exile? If she's a bounty hunter already at that point surely she's used to going offplanet. She could have at least moved to a planet Boba was allowed onto and then lived there where he could see her? Or did she just sit back and go, "He left me whine whine whine".

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Boba just did not want to be found, no matter how it affected his family. Sintas probably wanted to search for him, but wanted to concentrate on raising their child, Aylin.

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fairyblood wrote:

I happened to trip over this while browsing wookieepedia. Thought it might answer a lot of questions. (Or at least take care of the dead beat dad fears.)

In the decades between the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War, Fett took a leave of absence from the hunt, and attempted to live a normal life on the world of Concord Dawn. He attained the rank of Journeyman Protector and as such was mistaken by many to be the long-dead Jaster Mereel, the mentor of Boba's dead father.

It was during this time that Boba met Sintas Vel, a Kiffar bounty hunter, in what was perhaps Boba's only true close relationship since the death of his father. Boba and Sintas eventually married and had a daughter — Ailyn Vel. Unfortunately, the marriage did not last.

The title of Journeyman Protector was stripped from Fett after he had killed another fellow Protector, and he was forced to leave the planet in exile. All alone in the Galaxy once again, Boba hoped to banish the disappointing memories of his failed attempt at a "normal" life through honing his craft.

Linky: http://sw1mush.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett

Okay, that does seem to explain a few things...

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From what I have researched online about Aylin I have a question.
So if she(Aylin) eventually starts to wear her fathers outfit and claiming to be him would it not have to be much after his death.Because by my "fuzy" math she would be a young girl if not a teenager by the time of his death.
If she did become her father a few years after hearing of his death on tattoine  would that not add to the mystery of Boba not being eaten at all.

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Well my young friend that is a tail for another time smile

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Can she just go away for now?  LOL--sorry, but her presence just confuses things for me... :b

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fairyblood wrote:

I happened to trip over this while browsing wookieepedia. Thought it might answer a lot of questions. (Or at least take care of the dead beat dad fears.)

In the decades between the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War, Fett took a leave of absence from the hunt, and attempted to live a normal life on the world of Concord Dawn. He attained the rank of Journeyman Protector and as such was mistaken by many to be the long-dead Jaster Mereel, the mentor of Boba's dead father.

It was during this time that Boba met Sintas Vel, a Kiffar bounty hunter, in what was perhaps Boba's only true close relationship since the death of his father. Boba and Sintas eventually married and had a daughter — Ailyn Vel. Unfortunately, the marriage did not last.

The title of Journeyman Protector was stripped from Fett after he had killed another fellow Protector, and he was forced to leave the planet in exile. All alone in the Galaxy once again, Boba hoped to banish the disappointing memories of his failed attempt at a "normal" life through honing his craft.

Linky: http://sw1mush.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett

We've been over this before.  George Lucas said that Boba Fett never was Jaster for any length of time.  If George Lucas said it, then it's definently the thing to believe, and what wikipedia said isn't neccesarily the case.  Don't always trust wikipedia.

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When did George say that Boba was never Jaster?  I was under the impression that that was still one of the top theories.

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Miba wrote:

Uh-huh. And why didn't Sintas follow him in his exile? If she's a bounty hunter already at that point surely she's used to going offplanet. She could have at least moved to a planet Boba was allowed onto and then lived there where he could see her? Or did she just sit back and go, "He left me whine whine whine".

Proabably cuz she was ashamed of what he did. She might not have agreed with his motives for killing that dude.

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That's a possibility

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yeah, it sounds kind of story where the dad wants his offspring to carry on his dreams. Ya know what I mean? It os definatly a possiblity, but what would make more money????? Aylin being a bounty hunter, thats right. wink


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I dunno, in the comic Sintas seemed about as ruthless as he is, I doubt she'd reject him killing someone. And if Boba went out of his way to kill someone it would have to be for a very good reason.

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From the sounds of it, it does appear Sintas was a good match for Boba

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Well, I wouldn't mind it so much except that there was obviously something so horrid about her it made him leave.

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Miba wrote:

I dunno, in the comic Sintas seemed about as ruthless as he is, I doubt she'd reject him killing someone. And if Boba went out of his way to kill someone it would have to be for a very good reason.

I think when the explanation comes, it will be interesting.

I figure one of two things:
1) The PC version: He realized his destiny did not lie in the tame life of a family man, and, realized this when: enemies from his sordid past came after his family. He realizes after saving his family the only real way to save them is to walk away. So maybe he comes up with some BS thing and walks off. He figures, "I"m doing right by my kid. I'm giving her a chance at a normal life." That I can totally buy. (Only, I can't imagine he wouldn't find a clandestine way to support them, so Sintas running off to work a hunt for cash and leaving the kid alone doesn't add up. Enter 'handwavium'.)

2) The non-PC version: Fett buys into love just as he does what ever he sets out to do - with 110% of himself. Then, while out hunting bad guys, his wife (Feeling neglected, bored, stupid, mulish, who knows), betrays him in some way, with another man. Since this is G rated, perhaps it's just the simple mistake of kissing another guy and realizing, hey, I'm not in love with him, I'm in love with 'Bo'.  And in classic movie fashion, our hero has come home from the good fight, looking forward to seeing his wife and child, and witnesses this instead. Instantly, his trust is broken, for if she's done this, what else has she done? If she lied to me once, how many other times?  Is that kid 'really' mine, even? Sure, she is, but add in a dash of #1 (perhaps the fight he returned from was one of his enemies from his past). So he leaves.

I prefer the more tragic reason #2, with a dash of #1: a decent hero deserves epic tragedy. And it would explain why he didn't want to get involved ever again. Burned once, twice shy.

Also: Sintas is a mother who elected to do a job she knew could get her killed and leave her child without a parent or someone to raise them. Jango essentially did the same. Neither is responsible parental behavior. If you're a parent, you put your children first. You'd die for them. Not die to get them a birthday gift. Maybe I'm being my usual inflexible self: but hey: a mother like that doesn't deserve a heroic story line. She certainly doesn't deserve Fett. wink

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I like that explanation too--#2 with dash of #1.  I could also picture him doing something to the "other man"--I don't think that guy would be walking away...

While I could see your point-of-view as far as the seemingly irresponsible parental behavior, there are many parents with dangerous jobs.  Soldiers, firefighters, police officers...it can be trying for families at times, but families grow to accept that the jobs may be dangerous and that the parents are out there not only doing their job for their families, but for others as well.

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FettFan79 wrote:

I like that explanation too--#2 with dash of #1.  I could also picture him doing something to the "other man"--I don't think that guy would be walking away...

While I could see your point-of-view as far as the seemingly irresponsible parental behavior, there are many parents with dangerous jobs.  Soldiers, firefighters, police officers...it can be trying for families at times, but families grow to accept that the jobs may be dangerous and that the parents are out there not only doing their job for their families, but for others as well.

OMG!!! The other guy would be space toast.  Perhaps that's where the famous 'no disintigrations' line came from. smile

I can see dangerous jobs for those who protect society, but, bounty hunting is more of a mercenary thing. She's a smart hunter, she could have found a way to work it out so she was there for her child, but still active: perhaps run a merc team.

Still, I can't wait to see how it all works out.

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195 (edited by Ursula Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 am)

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After reading A Practical Man, I’ve come up with 2 more possible explanations for Fett leaving his wife and kid. (#3, #4)

#3: Remember there was a rumor circulating that Fett was really at one time a guy named Jaster Mereel, and was a journeyman protector who did something against the rules and got into it deep?(was it he killed a man?) Now, we since have learned that Fett is just Fett and we know who Jaster is, but, we also know that Fett and family lived on Concord Dawn and he may have been, for a short while, a journeyman protector (which I think is like a cop). What if the part about breaking the rules is true? What if he did kill someone that was in his custody? I’m certain there was a logic behind it: guy was scum, or, guy threatened his family. But it brings him into conflict that way, especially if they guy threatened his family: he has two conflicting bonds of honor, but only one can win. Family vs. Oath of Law. So he makes a choice, knowing it will damn him in the end. He’s bounced off planet. It puts a strain on the relationship, because: he sees himself in some way as unfit. (remember he’s very inflexible sometimes) Perhaps the conflict of oath troubles him, or the ease with which he broke his bond, and he determines wife/kid better off without him. Exit stage left.

Which leads me to #4, the most human and off the wall possible explanation:

#4: Boba Fett falls in love, gets married, has a kid. He always wondered about a big family and a mother as a child and (per the scholastic series). He takes a local job as a journey man protector, or just lives on Concord Dawn. Only, being married and being a father involves other people, with minds and personalities and feelings that are beyond your control. Deep down he wants the best for them, but he is a difficult man to live with and connect with on an emotional level. He and his wife struggle in the relationship. He can see she loves him, and he can see the pain he causes her daily because of the way he’s emotionally constructed and the way he handles (or doesn’t handle) emotional conflict. (For those not yet married or in a committed relationship, even the best of them have emotional conflict. Don’t worry, it is fun, but it’s also work.) He knows he does love his wife, and his kid, but he knows he can’t be the man he thinks she needs. (remember, he thinks his way is always the best way.) He also worries: what if my kid grows up just like me. I know I have issues. I want the best for her, so she’s better off without me, just like my wife. He thinks: I really do care, but I can’t be the husband and father I should be: they are better off without me. Only; if I don’t stone cold cut these apron strings, my wife, who is devoted to me, will not believe me and chase me across the galaxy. I need to make her believe I'm not into her or this marriage anymore, so she'll stay away and ultimately move on. So: he does what he thinks is the right thing. He leaves, giving her what he thinks is the freedom to find a more suitable, emotionally available man. But she doesn’t because, GAWDS, how do you follow an act like Boba Fett?

SO: in a nut shell, they’re shades of each other:
#3 – he does something bad for a right reason, and is bounced, but also realizes in that act that he’s not really a good stay at home kind of dad and husband, and cuts ties.
#4 – he’s astute enough to realize the pain he causes his wife because he’s emotionally distant, and he does love her, so he cuts her loose hoping she’ll find someone who can give her what he thinks she needs.


I think of all of them (1-4), I like 4 the best, because it's the most complex, heroic, and tragic of them all, thus fitting the epic requriements,  and I've always said, Fett deserves an epic story line.   It fits Fett's whole 'doing the right thing regardless of cost'. And it fits what was teased in bloodlines: that the kids come first, you protect them at all costs.  Last, it doesn't have him making a bad choice in a companion. They were just two people with the deck stacked against them.

AH – and last: I am cutting Sintas slack. Based on the age of her daughter at the time of Sintas’s demise, the girl, in Mando society, was considered an adult.  (at least old enough to marry),

Anyone else have ideas on how it will play out?

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I'm hoping Practical Man comes out with a book soon--possibly Bloodlines?  Maybe too soon...I have not read it yet.

I do like #4---you're right, it is the most "human and tragic", and understandable way to go about it.  And I AM a married person, going through a rough patch right now--YES it is WORK.  As far as your #4 explanation, I feel I'm in Boba's shoes in that scenario right now.

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197 (edited by Ursula Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:27 pm)

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I just finished Bloodlines.

It all works out. And I wasn't that far off the mark, but I'm not going to ruin it and tell you guys which one of the scenarios fits.  (**BEG***) What does happen, and when it happens: gut wrenching. (There is one scene, so brunt, brutal, so terrible,  I was shocked it was an a Star Wars book. Not to be sappy, but, the book moved me to tears.

There is a wildly satisfactory end to it, for Fett, and a terrific and moving pain. Epic, tragic, tarnished, and in the end, sadly heroic. 

Fett Fan 79, sorry to hear you're in a tough patch.  It's not an easy place to be.
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Fett doesn't die, right?

take it easy baby take it as it comes

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I highly doubt he'll die.

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draco fett wrote:

Fett doesn't die, right?

I don't want to be a spoiler...just remember, he's Fett, he's a seriously hard dude to kill, even for the Grim Reaper. wink

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