The equipment and training are all fairly similar stuff, but the Spartans are super-soldiers.

Yes, Commandos are Deadly when they work alone.
If i remember right, didn't Niner take out part of a small vilage?

It seems already clear that Commandos can handle certain matters when their by-themselves.

Ummm. Well in Star wars Miniatures... an Arc is 18 points, Boss is 19 points, The other 3 commandos are 16 and the best Boba Fett is 62 points.

That suggests that Boss is better than an Arc. An Arc is better than Scorch, Fixer or Sev and the four commandos together are slightly better than Boba Fett.

Points are usually reflective of how good they are but as Sadriel may tell you, they arenl't the greatest reflection of ability ever.

There is no way. NO WAY that 4 commandos would lose to Boba Fett if one Spartan could almost take him.

4 Spartans could take 4 commandos...But 4 Spartans would not be able to take any more than 6 Commandos if such a battle ensued.

A Commando is worth more than half a Spartan, maybe three quarters of a spartan. I previously said half a Spartan because I figured that someone who had obviously already underestimated the Commandos would have at least accepted that....

No offence intended by any of this by the way, I'm simply seeing this as a friendly difference of opinion.

I thought 4 commandoes were equal to a Arc trooper and Boba is better than an Arc trooper so he could beat 4 commandoes.

Either way at the beginning of Delta Halo you were given a rocket launcher and an SMG.
And the next level you were given one of those Covenant Sniper Rifles (beam rifle) and then a plasma pistol or something.

No matter what the normal compliment of weaponry is the UNSC aren't stupid even if compared to others they are ill-equipped. I think they'd giove the Spartans heavier firepower to the Battle Rifle and Magnum...Especially the Magnum...

Besides even if all the Commandos had was the vibroblade on their gloves, they'd still come out top if it was in a woodland area or somewhere with lots oif shadow.

Presumably you just forgot about the vibroblade though...

nice one man, but you also have to remember that in TZ Atin, shot fi point blank with a Verpine shatter gun, and all it did was leave a huge brusie. and in Hard Contact Atin got hit in the chest with a giant round (dose not say what kind, just "that was not a regullar round") It might have been a anti infantry round. Boss got hit with an anti infantry round, and it jsut lowered his health to medium. It multiplayer RC, i have been hit with a rocket before, and almsot died... then i got sniped. . but in Halo, you get hit with a rocket, your dead! so you have to think about the games, and not just the books. Based on the info I have just typed, I believe even more, that RC would win.

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I'm not saying I know everything...I haven't read all of Hard Contact and I haven't even started Triple Zero. Plus I haven't played the actual game for at the very least 4 months.

I think 4 Spartans would beat 4 Commandos in an all out fight.... In Some woods where the Commandos can rely on some guerrilla tactics though...No contest.

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In Hard Contact Atin got hit in the chest with a giant round (dose not say what kind, just "that was not a regullar round") It might have been a anti infantry round.

I'm pretty sure it was a Verpine Shatter rifle.

I totally agree. That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that part in Hard Contact.

In Hard Contact Atin got hit in the chest with a giant round (dose not say what kind, just "that was not a regullar round") It might have been a anti infantry round.

I'm pretty sure it was a Verpine Shatter rifle.

Well since your math is based on the assumption that 2 commandos are worth 1 spartan which I never agreed to, then i must say that I disagree with your post and your assumptions about my thoughts.

Its also tough to say the comparison between squads since Spartans have many different abilities, some are faster, some stronger, some smarter. Commandos are identical genetically and usually mentally, so they cannot use eachothers strengths to counterbalance weaknesses as Spartans can.

The only assumption I was making was that you knew as much information on the Commandos as you did the Spartans....

What I was saying was that there was no possibility that a Republic Commando is worth any less than half a Spartan. If you are saying that Two Commandos wouldn't stand a chance against one spartan then I don't think you know enough about one or either side.

The other thing is that as Arc Fett said, they all have weaknesses and they all have strenghts...Spartans and commandos alike.... The Commandos sound different (Sev has a gruff voice whereas Scorch has a more "I don't care" voice), Smell different, have different opinions, make different choices...In fact when it comes down to it, the only thing that isn't different is the way they look. You have demolitions experts (Darman or Scorch) Snipers (Sev) medis (Fi) Technicians experts (Atin or Fixer) and then the ones with true leadership capabilities (Niner or Boss) just like the Spartans. The Spartans were trained most of their lives just like the commandos. (Although a life time for a commando is half a lifetime for a Spartan.) The Sprtans and the Commandos were both trained by the best of the best and both had the best equipment available...

Now the adavntages for the Spartans was obviously the enhancement program. The treatment that disabled some, killed others but made the remainder faster, stronger, more resistant and generally unlike any other soldiers in the UNSC. The other advantage is of course the armor. The armor does not slow them down at all. The Spartans can move as fast with the armor as without. It can withstand fairly heavy damage before it is destroyed. This means of course that it could not withstand a rocket, but can resist at least a few shots...And thats without the shield. The Shield is capable of taking anything short of a heavy shell before having to recharge. The shield has been known to withstand a clip of ammo or a grenade without needing to be recharged...

The Commandos however, also have armor. They are also super-soldiers, and they also have shields. Now the armor is not superior to the Mark IV let alone the Mark VI, but it isn't Stormtrooper armor. They won't be killed instantly due to a single shot to unprotected armor. Its relatively tough stuff. Its still made of Plastoid, but I would imagine its thicker, or is made of a stronger alloy. The Commandos are also super-soldiers. By that I mean that they are stronger and faster than any average man. Not because they had special treatment that killed half of them, but because they were trained to peak. They can travel at approximately 8 KM per hour, with their packs and with heavy equipment (Niner said he was trying to make 10 klicks an hour with a heavy load as well as his armor in Hard Contact, which probably indicates he was going 8 or 9 klicks) We're talking pretty heavy equipment so it is very impressive for someone to be able to travel at that speed for even five minutes. And they were v ery strong men, as well as being very skilled in hand to hand combat. Plus they had their shields, which similarly to the Spartan's could take a clip of (Star wars) ammo or so. Plus teammates carried bacta and parts of the armor can be taken off at will and administered to. Now I finished reading First Strike over a year ago so my memory is a little fuzzy, But I don't remember any quick healing agent like bacta being used in the field in any of the Halo books, or games for that matter. So bacta is surely an advantage.

There is no way. NO WAY that 4 commandos would lose to Boba Fett if one Spartan could almost take him.

4 Spartans could take 4 commandos...But 4 Spartans would not be able to take any more than 6 Commandos if such a battle ensued.

A Commando is worth more than half a Spartan, maybe three quarters of a spartan. I previously said half a Spartan because I figured that someone who had obviously already underestimated the Commandos would have at least accepted that....

No offence intended by any of this by the way, I'm simply seeing this as a friendly difference of opinion.